How To Get BIGGER, LEANER, STRONGER With Mike Matthews - Ep. 215

How To Get BIGGER, LEANER, STRONGER With Mike Matthews – Ep. 215

This week we have Bestselling Health and Fitness Author, Host of the Muscle For Life with Mike Matthews Podcast, Mind behind the Stacked app, and Creator of both and Legion Athletics, Mike Matthews, joining us for an interview you don’t want to miss.

In our talk, we dive deep into how Mike got his start in the health and wellness industries as a writer and entrepreneur. But before we get into that, you’ll also learn how his love of research, learning, and writing led him to write numerous other books from Tesla to training guides for various businesses.

In this episode, you’ll also find out:

  • How both men and women can get in shape at the gym.
  • His favorite weightlifting tips for beginners.
  • What advice helped him launched his own business.
  • His upcoming book, The Little Black Book of Workout Motivation.
  • About his supplement company, Legion Athletics, and what inspired him to start it.
  • Inner struggles he has faced but why choosing what type of struggle he experiences makes it worth it for himself and his mission.
  • His experience in building various apps and why he wants to offer his, Stacked, for free.

About Legion Athletics


The Little Black Book

Of Workout Motivation

Coming out August 30 | Pre-Order Your Copy Today!

Have you ever gotten into your car after a long day at work, and even though you promised yourself you’d hit the gym, you head straight home for the couch instead?Have you ever been unable to stop hitting the Snooze button every morning (instead of the gym)?

Have you ever been secretly afraid that you just don’t have what it takes to really change your body and life?

Have you ever struggled so much to build a better body and life that you wondered if it’s really worth it?

If you answered “yes” to any of those questions, I understand. I’ve been there myself.

That’s why I wrote this book.

It’s my personal–and 100% practical and hands-on–blueprint for personal transformation, inside and outside of the gym, and it will provide you with new and valuable knowledge and skills that you will use for the rest of your life.

In short, I wrote this book to help you fix the biggest things that are holding you back from doing and achieving the things you care most about.

About Mike Matthews

Mike Matthews is a bestselling fitness author of books like “Bigger, Leaner, Stronger” and “Thinner, Leaner, Stronger“. He is also the creator of the blog and the supplement company Legion Athletics. His scientific approach to building muscle and losing fat has helped thousands of people build strong, lean, muscular, and healthy bodies, and his work has been featured in many popular outlets including, Esquire, Men’s Health, Elle, and many more.

What You’ll Hear on This Episode

00:00 Open Sky Fitness Introduction

1:15  Opening comments with Rob and Devon

2:00 Check out last week’s show: OSF 214 – Building Lean Muscle: SuperSets vs. Traditional Workouts

2:30 Clean up your diet with our 7 Day Paleo Reset

4:15 Stay tuned for our upcoming Facebook Live series in The Open Sky Fitness Podcast Group on Facebook

5:30 Introduction to Mike Matthews

8:00 His deep interest in research and digging for answers for himself to find the truth about health and wellness.

11:30 Why he decided to not go to college but instead focus on building a career as an entrepreneur.

14:30 What advice has helped him launched his own business.

15:30 His interest and love of writing and how that helped lead him to write training guides for employers to give to their employees.

17:00 What prompted him to write various books about various topics including Bigger, Leaner, Stronger and the cookbook, The Shredded Chef.

22:30 His upcoming book, The Little Black Book of Workout Motivation.

23:10 About his supplement company, Legion Athletics, and why he started it.

25:00 The various ups and downs he’s experienced so far with Legion Athletics and what lessons he’s learned along the way.

31:00 What is considered a good multivitamin based on the cost to make the product.

32:00 His mission to help and offer people high-quality supplements and vitamins.

38:00 Inner struggles he has faced but why choosing what type of struggle he experiences makes it worth it for himself and his mission.

41:00 Emotional attachments that we all have to certain aspects of life.

44:00 How he’s overcome business losses and came back even stronger.

45:00 How one app didn’t work out but he didn’t let that discourage him and now he’s creating an even better one called, Stacked.

47:10 Exercise – The differences between lifting heavy weights vs. doing cardio with light weights and higher reps.

51:00 Why he loves to work with people who are beginners in the world of health and wellness.

54:30 What women can do to get that toned, leaner and athletic look.

55:20 What men can do to gain more muscle.

55:50 How much and how often both men and women should be lifting.

57:30 His plans to release third editions with updated information about building muscle in both Bigger, Leaner, Stronger and Thinner, Leaner, Stronger.

58:40 The false idea that women cannot build muscle effectively and why it’s wrong.

59:20 How women are taught to initially approach weight lifting compared to men plus what they can do to still build muscle at a good pace.

1:01:10 Why, up to a point, doing low rep ranges (4-6) is just as beneficial as high rep ranges (10-12) for building muscle in the long-term.

1:02:00 The importance of doing your sets close to failure and why low rep ranges are better than high rep if you have to choose one over the other.

1:03:40 Why it’s better to actually enjoy what you’re doing and eating (within healthy limits) than following something that completely makes you miserable.

1:07:30 Final comments with Rob and Devon

1:09:00 Stay tuned for our upcoming Facebook Live series in The Open Sky Fitness Podcast Group on Facebook

1:10:40 Open Sky Fitness Closing






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  • 8 Weeks of Equipment Free Bodyweight Workouts in 20 minutes or less. (No gym membership required)
  • SIMPLE Whole Food Meal Plan w/Tasty Recipe Cookbook Featuring 60+ recipes!
  • Foolproof Schedule so you know EXACTLY what you’re supposed to do every day.
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Do The FREE 7 Day Paleo Rest

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One of the best things you can do for your mind and body in your mission to get healthier is to focus on your nutrition. That’s why we’re allowing people to sign up now to join us for our next Free 7 Day Paleo Rest! It’s all done via Facebook so no annoying emails that will fill up your inbox.

As part of the 7 Day Paleo Reset, we will provide you with:

  • Introduction to what the Paleo Diet is all about
  • 7 Day guide to easy Paleo recipes
  • What batch cooking is and how to incorporate that into your lifestyle
  • Various content resources including generational eating habits, the importance of building a wellness community, and how to begin a new healthy lifestyle.
  • How to make an impact on your life and life a life full of wellness.


Look Out For Our Upcoming

Throw Back Thursday Podcast Episodes!

We’ll be releasing new podcasts episodes on Thursdays that discuss previous episodes we’ve done, but we need your help! Go to the  Open Sky Fitness Facebook Group and tell us what your favorite episodes are. Then, Devon and I will re-listen to that episode, pick out the best parts and share even more insights on the topic.

We won’t just be regurgitating the same information over again. Since we began this podcast, there’s so much more information out their on health, nutrition, fitness, and personal wellness. So, each Thursday we’ll really just be going deeper into your favorite topics!


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Thanks for listening/reading episode 215 with Mike Matthews: How to Get BIGGER, LEANER, STRONGER! We hope you have gained more knowledge on how to be a healthier you.

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